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4 battery wiring on new batterys??

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4 battery wiring on new batterys??

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  • mike171562

    We just purchased 4 12v 7.5ah batterys to replace in an APC backup unit. The old batterys were taken out a few weeks ago and we did not document the connections. Does anybody have a diagram on how to wire the 4 batterys together, there are two jumpers, 2 positive connections and 2 negative.

  • ipicKedawinna

    if they are truly APC batteries, you should not have to wire anything.

  • PowerMan

    Hi Mike,

    APC does not support the use of none APC batteries in our UPS. One major reason being we will not have tested those batteries in our system and can not predict how those batteries will react with our chargers. if those batteries can not take our chargers then they could heat up, swell, and leak.

    The only recommendation we can make is to return the other batteries you purchased and get an APC RBC for your unit. Our RBC's will come prewired so you just have to install them.

  • mike171562

    These are NOT third party batteries, they are APC batteries we have ordered, but they are not pre-wired like the batteries you have shown me. If you cannot help with a simple wiring diagram, I will just have to continue searching elsewhere for answers, thank you for wasting my time and being absolutely NO help at all.

  • mike171562

    Wondering why you would assume these are Non-APC batteries and why you refuse to provide a 4 battery wiring diagram for your product?

  • mike171562

    Not only that, but I'm not asking you to support batteries, but the APC Unit itself. Is this how your company supports its products?

  • PowerMan

    Hi Mike,

    From the link you provided it looks like you have a SUA1000RM2U, is this correct? If I'm wrong then please provide the model number of the UPS you have. The model number will be located on the white sticker on the back of the UPS. If you do have a SUA1000RM2U then here is here is a link to the APC battery pack for that unit: http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=RBC23. The RBC23 for that unit comes already wired and ready to connect. It looks like what was ordered was the 4 individual batteries, is this also correct?

    APC can not support the use of other batteries in the UPS. The UPS is designed/tested to charge and monitor a specific type of battery. Results with third party batteries can never be guaranteed, and may often vary. Third party batteries can end up going bad, swelling prematurely and leaking, while an official APC RBC should last years.. Since it is not supported all wiring diagrams are kept proprietary and would not be able to be distributed. If I'm wrong on the model of the UPS and of the battery pack needed/purchased then I can take another look and see what is available for what is needed after I get the information requested above.

    Thank you.

  • mike171562

    Is this "Truly" an APC battery? Is it prewired

    http://www.buy.com/prod/apc-replacement-battery-cartridge-2-spill-proof-maintenance-free/q/loc/101/202854040.html


    Are any of these batteries listed on the apc website "TRULY" apc batteries? Are they pre-wired?

    http://buy.apc.com/commerce/storefronts/etail/category.aspx?storefrontcode=apcfs&countrycode=us&category_name=Replacement+Batteries(APC_US)&tsk=z279x


    How about this one on newegg, is this "Truly" an APC battery??? Is it pre-wired?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101185&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle--UPS+Accessories--APC-_-42101185

  • ipicKedawinna

    all of the batteries you posted do not have wiring that go along with them like the batteries you are looking at for your particular UPS. they only wire into the leads that attach to that particular UPS. so, no, they arent prewired because there is no fuse or need for them to be wired in series. they just connect directly to the UPS leads/wires/connectors that should be attached to the UPS you are putting them in. not all UPSs require multiple batteries wired in series. some are just single battery applications.

    is this truly an APC battery?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101194

    Yes, and as you can see, includes the batteries already correctly wired with all appropriate connectors, etc in the battery tray as shown in the picture. :-)

  • mike171562

    Yes, that is what I am trying to find out, how to attach the leads to the batteries. I dont understand the difficulty here. Is Powerman an APC support person, and if so, does he not realize that all batteries do not come pre-wired and DO need to be attached to the leads in some fashion? I hope I never have a real APC support issue if this is the caliber of support I can expect.